Silicone Ball for Enucleation?

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  • #3586

    Petra
    Member

    Hi. My 15 year old toy poodle has glaucoma in her right eye. After doing everything possible, the pressure is not going down so I have decided to remove the eye. It has been so stressful for me in making this decision, but I know it’s the right one….I hope. My question is, the ophthalmologist wants to put a silicone ball in to replace the eyeball to prevent a sunk in look. But my vet doesn’t think it’s necessary. He My vet also doesn’t think it’s necessary to perform a pathology report on the eye whereas the ophthalmologist wants to in order to see how to prevent glaucoma in her left eye. The specialist is 40 minutes from my house and that’s why I would rather have my own vet perform the surgery. He says he’s done it many times and is comfortable with the procedure. Has anyone whose dog has had enucleation, had an implant placed or a pathology report done? I don’t know who to trust and am confused on who to go with. Any input would be appreciated! Thank you.

  • #3587

    Nancy
    Member

    Hello there,
    First off, don’t feel bad about removing your pups eye. They adjust. My shin tzu had to have 1 eye removed and it stressed me out so much. 2 weeks later, the other eye went bad and that eye had to be removed. How I wish he had that 1 eye:)
    But….he is doing amazing with no eyes and amazes me every day!
    I don’t think the silicone eye is necessary. I didn’t go that route and my dog looks just fine. It’s basically cosmetic.
    I did have a biopsy on his eye the second time to see what caused this. I WISH I would have had a biopsy on the first eye. Then we may have been able to help save the second eye. My opthomologist didn’t recommend having a biopsy on the first eye. Don’t know why. Guess she thought she knew the problem. Do it. This way if the other eye goes bad, you know how to proceed.
    Good luck and remember….this is much harder on us than them. They adjust and are back to normal in a few weeks. If we are sad about it, they feel our energy and react to US. This is what I learned. As soon as I let it go and got myself back to normal, my dog didn’t have to worry about me and was just fine:)

    • #3588

      Petra
      Member

      Thank you so much Nancy. I literally haven’t slept well for two weeks trying to figure out what to do. I am a wreck. I am so depressed….and I’m sure my sensitive baby can tell…as you mentioned. I so appreciate your input and I think you’re right! Thanks!

  • #3589

    Kristy
    Member

    Hi, Petra!

    I totally agree with Nancy! An eyeball is NOT at all necessary. Sounds like the specialist just wants to make money off of you. Also, your baby will be great! Check out the Blind Dogs Facebook page!!!! Tons of us with blind dogs and dogs with no eyes and the do just amazingly! Your dog will adjust so well. Please know that 🙂

    • #3590

      Petra
      Member

      Thank you so much Kristy! I appreciate your input so much. It is making me feel better about my decision. Now I just have to decide who to do the surgery. I trust that my vet can do the surgery but the more research I do, the more upset with him I’m getting. When I first brought Mimi in with her eye very large and white, he never told me she might develop glaucoma and how serious it was. He just gave me eye drops for 10 days. I knew she had the cataract in that eye, but never imagined it could progress to where it has. I trusted him. I feel like he should have referred me immediately to the ophthalmologist. So I’m conflicted about bringing my baby to her. It’s just that the specialist is so much more!

  • #3591

    Nancy
    Member

    The specialist is much more. In our situation, the specialist charged $1900 and our vet charged $875. Our ophthalmologist said it was a fairly easy procedure and to go to our local vet to save money.
    But, you have to trust your vet. Have a conversation with your vet about how you are feeling and about your frustration with her about the situation. Ask how many enucleations she’s done. If you’re still not feeling good, ask around and find another vet. I talked to so many people when finding a new vet. Word of mouth is the best way to go. People are very honest when it comes to their babies. Don’t wait too long though. If your baby is in pain, you need to get it done ASAP. My boy felt so much better after the enucleation that being blind really didn’t bother him. Yes, there was an adjustment period, but your baby will still have an eye, so it shouldn’t be more than healing and the itchy period. That’s probably the worst part. About day 3-6 their stitches itch like crazy. At least mine did. Not much you can do but wait it out. Good luck to you. You are making the right choice by taking it out. Your baby will thank you for it😉
    Try not to be depressed. Be happy and your baby will feel that. It’s a little shocking when they bring your baby out to you after surgery. The first eye was a little messy. They didn’t clean him up much. That was a lot to take in. The second eye was nice and cleaned up. That was much easier to take. Just love your baby after and be happy and positive. Let us know how it goes.😊

  • #3592

    Petra
    Member

    Thank you Nancy! Can’t tell you how much it helps to talk to people who have been through this! None of my friends with pets have ever had to make this decision so I felt so alone. It is really comforting to hear your thoughts. I talked to my vet’s receptionist who I really like and after talking to her, I feel like my dog will be in good hands with my own vet. His price is $1200 without a pathology report and $1445 with one. (I personally think that is high for a vet) The ophthalmologist gave me an estimate of $2179 which included a report. I made my appointment for next Tuesday the 7th. I am trying not to freak out. I will be a mess the day of her surgery!!!!

  • #3598

    Petra
    Member

    Hi there, here is an update on Mimi. We had the enucleation surgery on Tuesday. The surgery went well and we brought home a very groggy Mimi. She slept for a few more hours until it was time for her pain meds. What a nightmare. We were given only Tramadol which tastes horrible. We tried for two hours to get it down her throat and were unsuccessful. We literally tried every trick in the book. The overnight emergency hospital said she should be ok but call the vet in the morning. i took her in for a shot of pain the next morning. She slept for a few hours but then she became so restless and almost neurotic….walking around the house non stop….acting almost possessed. Brought her back to the doctor at 5:30 pm where they administered the Tramadol after almost 15 minutes and I could hear her crying. The pill never really helped. She had the same neurotic behavior with the same restlessness and extreme panting which started around midnight. Up again all night with her….second night of no sleep. Never got the Tramadol in her after 2 hours again of trying. Have a call into the vet this morning to see if they can give me a different pain medication. The receptionist keeps on telling me that they don’t have anything else????? What?????? That doesn’t seem right. So I said please have the vet call me. Am waiting for his call. I hope you all didn’t have to go through what I am going through. This is such a horrible experience. I feel so bad for my poor dog. I wasn’t prepared for this!

    • #3599

      Paula – ADMIN
      Keymaster

      I have a (sighted) dog and not in a million years would I be able to get a pill down her throat. I always have to hide it in some ground meat of some sort, (chicken mince, beef mince) and I have to be extremely careful that the tablet is right in the centre of the meat before I roll it up into a ball as she will smell it a mile off. I have to use one hand to place the tablet and the other to roll up the meat otherwise she will pick up the smell if I roll it up with the tablet hand.However, if her appetite is not good then forget it, she won’t be in it.

      I find it interesting that she is in so much pain though. Perhaps they could give her a mild morphine injection to relieve the pain and calm her down a little.

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